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Rob Walling

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Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

Like could they become one in six months or maybe it's three years?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

I think either is fine as long as they can do their current role as a project level thinker and they're kind of evolving over that time.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

To me, when I look at small companies especially, and I see people evolve, it's like, you know, you've heard this thing about how you're the average of the five people that you hang around with.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

So that's a friend group analogy.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

You see it with musicians.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

We're like The Beatles or Led Zeppelin or any incredible group that develops...

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

they like lift each other up almost unintentionally.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

And maybe there's a friendly rivalry or there's certain things that like they kind of rub off from one to the other.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

And one person who's exceptional at something, everyone else recognizes that, this person's exceptional at sales or exceptional at decision making or exceptional at moving things forward, exceptional at management.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

You see that person and you're like, man, they're really good.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

I'm going to kind of do a little bit of what they're doing.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

And like everybody gets better.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

if the raw material's there and everyone's interested in learning.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

And I see the same thing on these small teams.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

And so if you start hiring people that are exceptional and they're getting better and they bring someone up kind of underneath them, maybe they're managing them, and they start getting better as well, the whole team, the rising tide, it raises all the boats.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

And the hard part is if you hire someone who isn't as good and it's noticeable, it's tough.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

It kind of drags the team down, drags the morale down a little bit.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

And it can put a damper on that.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

I almost think of it like as this exponential yes anding.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 826 | How to Find, Hire, and Work with Owner-Level Thinkers

Another analogy is like these scenes, right?