Rob Walling

Yeah, so back in 2013, episode 143, How to Hire Like a Bootstrapper, with special guest Laura Roeder, and then two episodes in 2019, where I interviewed you about, it must have been Edgar. Yeah. Yeah, it was about Edgar, because it's seller growth, platform, risk, layoffs, and powering through roadblocks. That sounds like the summary of Edgar.

Yeah, so back in 2013, episode 143, How to Hire Like a Bootstrapper, with special guest Laura Roeder, and then two episodes in 2019, where I interviewed you about, it must have been Edgar. Yeah. Yeah, it was about Edgar, because it's seller growth, platform, risk, layoffs, and powering through roadblocks. That sounds like the summary of Edgar.

And then you sold Edgar in 22, I believe, right? A couple years ago.

And then you sold Edgar in 22, I believe, right? A couple years ago.

You have a good blog post about that. We'll link up in the show notes. And then December of 2019, you came on to answer listener questions. So today you are working on Paperbell. Is that paperbell.com? Do you have the .com?

You have a good blog post about that. We'll link up in the show notes. And then December of 2019, you came on to answer listener questions. So today you are working on Paperbell. Is that paperbell.com? Do you have the .com?

Very nice. You want to tell folks what it is, the history of that, how long you've been working on it?

Very nice. You want to tell folks what it is, the history of that, how long you've been working on it?

And how big is your team?

And how big is your team?

Very nice. So you have a lot of experience across the board, bootstrapping, hiring, all the things. We have some good questions for you and I to bat around today. First one is from Ryan King. And Ryan says, hey Rob, Thanks for your advice on selling my company at the end of 2022. The sale didn't happen in the end, but I found my feet and I'm working on trying to grow again.

Very nice. So you have a lot of experience across the board, bootstrapping, hiring, all the things. We have some good questions for you and I to bat around today. First one is from Ryan King. And Ryan says, hey Rob, Thanks for your advice on selling my company at the end of 2022. The sale didn't happen in the end, but I found my feet and I'm working on trying to grow again.

I have an intermediate startup question for you. I'm trying to transition from a one-person company where I do everything to having a team. Your book, I think it means a SaaS playbook, explores the idea of who should be your first hire. But I'm interested in that in-between phase where you have some excess profit, but not enough to make a full-time hire.

I have an intermediate startup question for you. I'm trying to transition from a one-person company where I do everything to having a team. Your book, I think it means a SaaS playbook, explores the idea of who should be your first hire. But I'm interested in that in-between phase where you have some excess profit, but not enough to make a full-time hire.

My SaaS produces in excess of about $2,000 annually.

My SaaS produces in excess of about $2,000 annually.

month at the moment it's not much but i've been trying to use it to hire freelancers to work on the project expecting it to buy me time to work more on marketing and sales but it's been a very frustrating experience and i'm not sure i can find someone reliable at that price point i'm looking to try something new and i'm interested in hearing how you would utilize a small amount of funds to help grow the company if you were in a similar situation well laura i think both you and i have been in this situation so what what's your advice for ryan

month at the moment it's not much but i've been trying to use it to hire freelancers to work on the project expecting it to buy me time to work more on marketing and sales but it's been a very frustrating experience and i'm not sure i can find someone reliable at that price point i'm looking to try something new and i'm interested in hearing how you would utilize a small amount of funds to help grow the company if you were in a similar situation well laura i think both you and i have been in this situation so what what's your advice for ryan

Yeah, I like that. The virtual assistant thing, if you want to read more about that, Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell, I think was a really good book talking about how to think through that. Where do you hire? Are you an Upwork person? Where would you look for someone like this?

Yeah, I like that. The virtual assistant thing, if you want to read more about that, Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell, I think was a really good book talking about how to think through that. Where do you hire? Are you an Upwork person? Where would you look for someone like this?