Rob Wiblin
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first heard Sep 2024
last heard May 2025
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valves and uh precautionary measures and so on.
If another organization can train a model that's as powerful as as the Frontier one for ten million or one million or even uh even a hundred million, that means that there might be
just a wide proliferation of these kinds of dangerous capabilities and you know if any one actor uh is is not willing to follow the rules and and is going to defect from them, uh then that could still be quite disastrous.
How worried are you about about that failure mode?
Yeah, I mean, I guess that uh it makes sense.
I suppose i it's it's a picture that makes makes one nervous because it means that you always have to have this kind of hegemon of the most recent model, ensuring that the what is like now, I guess an obsolete but still like quite powerful model from two years ago isn't isn't isn't causing any havoc.
Um, but I g I suppose it probably is almost almost the only way that we can make things work.
I can't I can't think of an alternative, to be honest, yeah.
Um yeah, you have you have a couple of really nice papers on this offense defense uh balance question, which unfortunately we we we couldn't fit inside the margins of the of the page this time around.
So might might have to wait for for for a third interview.
Um we're almost out of time, but uh yeah, just uh to finish up, I wanted to talk a bit about um guess advice for for people in the audience.
Um as as I mentioned, uh back in twenty eighteen you were telling people they should jump into this AI safety and governance and and and and policy work, which I think was was excellent advice at the time and might might might still be excellent advice now.
I guess back then you were saying it's there were technical people perhaps in this area, but social scientists uh less so.
There were there were some real gaps of different, you know, disciplines and areas of knowledge um that just weren't really going into AI governance because I suppose they weren't hearing about it or it didn't seem as relevant.
Um I th uh is social science still a big gap?
And are there other kind of uh big gaps where uh you'd you'd really benefit having people have a particular sort of training or or interest coming into the field?
Yeah.
Are there any particular roles that I suppose you mentioned you're hiring right now?
May maybe not by the time uh that this episode comes out.
Um but what what are the sorts of roles that um GDM maybe like uh has has difficulty hiring for, even if even despite its prominence where you you'd be great if you could get more people into the into the field.
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