Rob Wiblin

And even if they wanted to hide that the CBRN stuff was dangerous, they wouldn't be able to.

Yeah.

Back and forth that I hear repeatedly is you or someone at a company will say, the purpose of these reports is to show that we have thought this through.

We've made a determination that the model is safe to deploy it to the public.

And other people will say, sure, the current model, maybe it is fine.

They don't actually think that it is too dangerous for people to be using commercially.

But...

One day these models will be dangerous enough that we should be concerned.

And the only way that we can forecast how the company will behave come that time is how they're behaving now.

We use the model cards that are put out now as a measure of how serious the company is about safety, how serious it is about transparency and revealing what is actually going on.

And the way you could kind of credibly commit to be a good actor later on is to be a better actor now.

What do you make of that?

I guess you're probably going to say similar things to what you've said before, that this just isn't the right mechanism for the task.

Um, and I mean, I think allegiance is a little bit of an unfair way, but just like willingness to commit resources to this purpose.

I mean, this isn't an unusual mechanism that you'll want to kind of commit to doing something in future.

And how do people assess how you'll behave in future?

Like the only indication they can get is things in the present because they don't have a crystal ball.

That's right.

So the basic message is it's bad for resources to be diverted from stuff that is substantively good, that is actually going to solve the problem ultimately towards things that are kind of going through the motions of appearing like you care.

And sometimes people accidentally, I guess, are kind of requesting that you put resources into the second one, which I guess partly will come from the rest of the organization, but will in significant part, I guess, come from the safety and alignment team and its resources and its staff.