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Rob Wiblin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1910 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So like one thing I'm interested in is like what fraction of pull requests to your internal code base were mostly written by AI and mostly reviewed by AI.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So AI is like, humans are like not involved for the most part in like both sides of this equation.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And I'd be very interested in watching that number climb up, because I think it's an indication both of AI capabilities and of how much deference they're giving to AIs.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And eventually, if things are going to go crazy fast, the AIs have to be doing most things, including most management and approval and review.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Because if humans have to do that stuff, then things can only go so fast.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So I really want to track how much higher-level decision-making authority is being given to the AIs in practice inside the companies.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I think there are probably a bunch of other things that we could send basically as a survey.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

How much do you use AIs for this type of thing, for that type of thing?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

How much speedup do you get?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Subjectively, do you think you get?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

If you're running any internal RCTs, I would, of course, love to know the results of that.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, I think...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

That is a good thing to do, but I sort of don't think that just benchmarks alone will actually lead anyone to sound the alarm because we just, like the thing with benchmarks is that they saturate.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

They always have the S-curve shape and the benchmarks we have right now are harder than the previous generation of benchmarks, but it's still far from the case that like,

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I feel confident that if your AI gets 100% score on all these benchmarks, then it's like a threat to the world and it could take over the world.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I still think the benchmarks we have right now are like well below that.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So what's probably going to happen is that these benchmarks are going to get saturated.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Then there's going to be a next generation of benchmarks people make.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And then those benchmarks are going to tick up and then get saturated.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So I think we need some kind of real world measure before we can start sounding the alarm.