Rob Wiblin

Yeah, I'm guessing you might have some family in India or perhaps have spent some time in India before you started this organization?

All right, yeah.

Was that a substantial advantage as a co-founder?

Do you think maybe Fiona would have found it more difficult without someone who was more familiar with operating in India?

Yeah, I think both having the desire to mull things over and the desire to make a decision and move on is very useful to have both of those tendencies competing, I guess, when you're trying to manage something.

I've been told that it can be useful having me in a meeting because I always want to end meetings and just make decisions.

Obviously, that would be terrible if it was the only way that you're doing things.

But it's like you want to have a flavor of different dispositions towards that kind of thing.

Has anyone been kind of annoyed by what you're doing and made your life difficult over the last couple of years?

Yeah, yeah.

I was trying to think who might be annoyed.

I suppose anti-vaxxers perhaps, but maybe they're operating more in other countries.

What about, has anyone been annoyed that you're kind of spamming them with these messages?

Or perhaps the immunization ambassadors annoyed someone by hassling them too much?

Or I guess it just hasn't been an issue so far.

Okay, that's great.

I guess we've talked about the possibility of this being done by government or possibly even absorbed by government at some point in the future.

What about kind of going the opposite way?

I was imagining an alternative model for trying to get vaccines to everyone might be that the Indian government starts paying a bounty effectively for anyone who's able to immunise a child who otherwise would have gone unimmunised.

And so you could imagine, I guess, semi trying to privatize this by just making it the case that any company in India could potentially try to make a profit by using their marketing ability or their logistics ability to immunize as many people as possible and then go to the government and get paid for it.