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Rob Wiblin

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

These views just on its face, they're not even intention.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

Of course, people don't only care who decides who has control over AI.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

They also care what they decide and what they decide to do.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

I might support legislation that allows the leader of a city's fire service to close streets for public safety.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

But if that fire chief started closing arbitrary streets and demanding bribes to pass through them, I wouldn't be a hypocrite for opposing that as well.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

The reason people get confused here is because I think they're mentally compressing something extremely multidimensional down into a single axis of variation.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

In this case, the axis being more government control of AI versus less government control of AI.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

That's an absurdly crude way to think about things.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

Everyone has always known full well that it doesn't just matter whether the government gets involved in this topic, it matters how it gets involved, on what terms, and what it's trying to accomplish when it does.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

You won't be shocked to hear that supporters of AI regulation in general, they pick it endlessly among themselves about exactly what details here would be helpful versus harmful.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

Nothing this complex and delicate is going to be possible to boil down to more government good, less government bad.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

I think the debate about the abstract Pentagon dispute in particular, it got so abstract so fast, in part because for AI commentators, who should control AI is a much more interesting and important and generative topic than a narrow military contract dispute.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

And in part, because for people who wanted to defend the Pentagon, it's a hell of a lot easier to defend the general principle that the government should have some say or some influence of AI than to defend what the Pentagon was actually doing in this instance.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

A phenomenon at play here is that there's often a genuine trade-off between what decision-making process seems best in the abstract and our opinions about what outcome would be best in a particular case.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

Say I think zoning decisions should be made at the city level.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

That's the right process.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

But the current mayor happens to be blocking all new housing construction while I support doing the exact opposite.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

I now face a real tension.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

Adopting the process that I think is best as a general rule, that is going to produce an outcome that I think is genuinely harmful, at least in the immediate term.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Is there a case against Anthropic? And: The Meta leaks are worse than you think.

Reasonable people can disagree about which consideration ought to win out in any given instance.