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Rob Wiblin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1910 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So I guess my high-level formula would be look at the places where adoption has penetrated the most and start to measure speed up in actual output variables.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I think it would be really cool if there was a solar panel manufacturing plant that had really adopted AI and we started to see how much more quickly they could manufacture solar panels or how much better they could make solar panels.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I think the most important thing, or the thing I ultimately care about, is the AI stack.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So chip design, chip manufacturing, manufacturing the equipment that manufactures chips, and then, of course, the software piece of it, too.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

The software piece is the earliest piece.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

But I think we should be monitoring degree of AI adoption, self-reported AI acceleration, RCTs, anything we can get our hands on for the entire stack.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Because I think the...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

moment when the sort of AI futurists think things are likely to be going much, much faster sort of coincides with when AI has like fully automated the process of making more AI.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So that's really something to watch out for.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And then I think like, but on a separate track, you also wanna just be looking at the earliest power users, no matter where they are, just because you can get insight that transfers to these domains.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I don't know.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

I'm really like curious about this.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

Yeah, so I put out a pair of requests for proposals in late 2023.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

One of them was on building difficult, realistic benchmarks for AI agents.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So at the time, very few people were working with AI agents and only like a couple of agentic benchmarks had come out, including meters benchmark that I discussed on the show last time.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And so I was really excited about it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

It felt like it was a moment.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

to move on from like giving LLMs multiple choice tests to giving them like real tasks like book me a flight or like, you know, make this piece of software work, like write tests, run the tests, iterate until the thing actually works.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

And that was like a very new idea at the time, but also the time was sort of right for that idea and there were a lot of academic researchers who were excited about moving into the space.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Every AI Company's Safety Plan is 'Use AI to Make AI Safe'. Is That Crazy? | Ajeya Cotra

So we got a lot of applications for that arm of our request for proposals, and we funded a bunch of cool benchmarks, including SciBench, which is a cyber offense benchmark that's used in a lot of standard evaluations now.