Robbie Bernstein

And so if you guys are just going for criminals, then you're doing it in the worst possible way that even people who would not object to rounding up the criminals, you seem to have activated.

So not only are not only not engaging in the mass deportations, but then even on this storyline of, well, we're actually just trying to get the criminals out of the country.

well, then you're doing it in a profoundly stupid way if people are out in the streets objecting to it.

And it sounds to me like that's not what you're doing.

It sounds to me like you've gone into these areas looking for a fight.

Well, I guess the two claims that I've seen to try and justify it is one that he actually, I think, branded is the term, which essentially brandish the weapon, which is basically, you know, if you're it's like the mob movies when you're standing and you're guarding the thing.

It's kind of like when the Godfellas, no, Godfather.

Yeah.

When he tries to pretend like he's got the gun to scare people off.

I have yet to see a video that showcases that interaction.

No, I think if it's in your holster and like you pull up to show you got a gun there.

We've seen no evidence of that.

And now the, I think, bigger bullshit claim is that he was guilty or there to provoke trouble, and the evidence isn't the fact that he had a gun at the time.

And also, it stands out to me when Cash... I forget exactly what he said there, but as far as I know, there hasn't been a single incident of a protester purposely showing up to a place with a weapon and then shooting at law enforcement.

And he's kind of conflating, like...

i i i yeah i think there's a bit of uh uh of a hostile climate and a problem of people being violent towards law enforcement and i'm seeing videos where uh the people who are upset with law enforcement it's not easy to tell who's always instigating but it does look like there's some scenes where instigators are showing up and provoking or getting in the way of ice and if they are throwing things at them or engaging in violent activity that's wrong but no one's been shot at by protesters yet

There's no epidemic of protesters showing up to places with guns and shooting at ICE.

I mean, or shooting at law enforcement.

Or maybe I missed a news story here, but it kind of sounds like you're conflating, you know, violence from protesters, which is wrong.

And protesters shouldn't be violence, but creating like an image as if people are showing up to sites with guns and shooting at law enforcement that we have a problem in this country of violence.