Robert Evans

Yeah.

And obviously that that really like sends a message to her followers early on.

In 2003, after Carol leaves and Don marries Nicole, Nicole brings a new guy into the fold, a new old guy.

This is Ray Vetterling.

Ray Vetterlin had been a protege of Vic at the Morehouse thing.

And he was like the almost famous version of a cult leader.

Like he'd been pretty big in Morehouse.

He'd done some cult stuff of his own, but it never really taken off.

He'd made some money.

He'd done okay.

It's a tough industry, cult leaders.

He's a working cult leader, Ray is.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

But Rey knows the business, right?

Rey knows if you're going to start a cult, here's the things you want to do.

Here's how you build the curriculum that you're going to sell and all this stuff.

And so she brings him in and he writes down a lot of his best tips and tricks and he helps her kind of plan the cult she's going to start from the ground up.

And this is kind of a situation where Ray is both going to get physical access to Nicole's body.

He's going to be doing all of these physical orgasm demonstrations where he's like stroking her.