Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK III / Bobby Kennedy)

uh and he is married to a former cia officer who is currently deputy director of national intelligence robert welcome uh thanks for having me dr drew i have to say uh to have fond memories i have fond memories of my friends gathering together to listen to loveline on the radio as a kid and uh where were you what part of the country at that point

I was in DC and you know, I kind of was thinking about how people used to get together and listen to something, you know, kind of have that communal experience.

And then there was the DC chili cook-off.

I remember that getting crazy.

But, you know, I would say, do you think that was kind of the lockdowns that completely did end the communal culture?

Or do you think it was...

You know, the switch from radio to podcasting or something like that.

Yeah.

That's right.

That was the thing.

Yeah, and people used to gather around the radio.

It seems funny because people say that and you'd think like 1940s, but really in the 90s, we were still doing it.

Um, well, when we got married, she had done basically 10 years, uh, undercover China, Iraq, Afghanistan.

She wrote a bestselling book and the agency actually tried to, uh, stop us from publishing it at the last minute.

She went ahead anyway, and now she's in charge of their entire budget.

So, ha.

I'd say her role, not just as Tulsi's deputy, but at the OMB, the Office of Management and Budget, allowed her to kind of really look into this weird NGO to private company slash foundation, weird circle of cash moving around and just see how much gets siphoned off.

And it's a horrifying amount, much more than people think.

I think it's more like they just take a lot of the money through every single subcontractor.

Somebody takes a bite of it and probably 95% of the money is ending up in somebody's pocket.