Robert Glazer

Good to see you.

And I think a lot of people, like I said, they have a sense of their values, but they can't articulate them.

And if they can do that, that really is the compass.

Thanks.

I'm glad I made the cut.

I'm sure it's hard to get back.

Always hard to get back.

The origin story of this to me was in about 2013.

I was at a leadership training right as I was building my company.

And I thought it was going to be a lot about how to lead externally.

I've been doing work with people on this concept of core values for a while, and it was one of the things that made the biggest change in my life.

But really, it was two days of who are you and what do you value?

And you need to figure that out first.

And I got a sense that I was very values-oriented, but I couldn't articulate what they were.

And I think we have these rules and we have these things we should follow.

I probably said similar things that I hear people say now, like integrity and family and things that are one word that aren't very helpful.

I think the problem for most of us is we don't actually know what they are.

We know kind of when we've made a mistake.

So I went on a three or six-month journey to figure out my core values.

So I like to say it's not super helpful if you hit the electric fence and you get electrocuted and you're like, oh, I shouldn't have done that.