Robert Glazer

And I feel like I tried to learn from all of them beforehand, but it was still not easy.

A lot of people want to figure out their purpose.

So my purpose is to share ideas that help people and organizations grow.

We brought on a growth partner for our business.

That's what I figured out I really enjoy.

I, for years, had been the R&D department, I think like a lot of founders were.

I think that if you can figure out your values, they're like the pillars and the purpose is the roof that sits across all of it.

But at that point, we were a 250-person company.

We were growing.

I had a number two.

Every time the company doubles...

Some people, they're really stressed to figure out their purpose.

You're growing a business.

It's like, show me what you value and the things that you want to do.

You haven't done this for the first time.

Every time it doubles, you have to decide, do I want to be that leader, that CEO?

And then it's easier to sort of look at an overarching purpose that sits across that.

And if you do, there's a whole bunch of stuff you need to learn and get better at and otherwise.

But I think it's almost easier to help figure out the values piece before the core purpose thing.

And I had made that decision at 10 million and 20 million and 40 million.