Robert Glazer

If I could figure out how to orient my work about fulfilling these things each day, that I would enjoy the climb and I wouldn't have to make it as much about the destination.

Again, there are a lot of depressed, successful looking people out there.

It's like the world's smallest violin, but they don't realize like a lot of these people, they just don't know how to turn it off and they don't have as much fulfillment as you would think.

Yeah, I call it the three climbs.

So I think for a lot of people, we hear about the first mountain, the second mountain.

I'm not sure it's the mountain as much as the climb.

The first climb is you kind of got bullied onto this climb by family or otherwise.

And they said, look, you've got to be a doctor or a lawyer or something.

And you went and you got good at it and you hated every minute of it and you hated the top.

The second climb is what we were talking about that I think most of us have been on or a lot of us have been on that listen to your show, which is

They asked people with a million dollars and a hundred million dollars in net worth, what was enough?

No, I chose this.

I wanted it.

And I liked most of the day's climbing.

And basically that was the answer.

There was some good and there was some bad.

It was always 30 or 40% more than whatever they had, which again, just tells you that people say it's not about the money, but it always felt like more would make them happy.

But I really thought the top would make the whole climb worth it.

And you get there and you're like, it kind of wasn't.

And that's where that third climb is, where it just stops as much being about the ascension and more about...