Robert Glazer

And clearly the people with more still felt that more would make them happy.

Enjoying the climb and you can make plenty of money on that and you can have a lot of fulfillment in that.

But then when you have it, you're going to just say, yeah, but that's good.

It's just you're changing your orientation from it's this delayed gratification that I'm working for.

If you can't figure out how to be happy in the moment with what you have, it's hard to believe that you'll be happy at some arrival moment.

It's always great to have goals to I want to do this thing every day and I want the process to be fun.

I'm on this climb with this book.

Yeah, I call it the three climbs.

I've set financial goals.

So I think for a lot of people, we hear about the first mountain, the second mountain.

I've set growth goals over the year.

My goal for the next five years is to help a million people figure out their core values.

I'm not sure it's the mountain as much as the climb.

The first climb is you kind of got bullied onto this climb by family or otherwise.

I have seen how powerful this work is for people.

I've watched what it's unlocked.

And they said, look, you got to be a doctor or a lawyer or something.

I've had some incredible discussions leading up to this launch and vulnerable moments with podcast hosts like you and talking about stuff where people are like, oh, that's why I do that.

And you went and you got good at it and you hated every minute of it and you hated the top.

The second climb is what we were talking about that I think most of us have been on or a lot of us have been on that listen to your show, which is