Robert Pape

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331 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 26 Aug

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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar · 8/26/26: Professor Pape Ridicules Bessent's D-Day, MAGA Influencer Caught Working for Pentagon, Beef Controversy w/ Dan Osborn · 26 Aug 2026 podcast

great to be with you this morning. voice-verified

Yes, what Scott Besson is doing is going through another route of the escalation trap. voice-verified

He's presenting it as an alternative to war, but that's not what it is. voice-verified

What it's really going to lead to is another escalation trap. voice-verified

And if anything, if he in fact goes forward, it would be more military war. voice-verified

So for 30 years, I have studied, as we all know, air power, but also side by side with that, economic blockades and economic sanctions, publishing big articles, fat appendices, all the cases since World War I. And here's what people need to know, that starting in World War I, the pattern is different before, but starting in World War I, economic blockades and economic sanctions voice-verified

have never, never on their own voice-verified

One, a major war. voice-verified

They've never toppled a government on their own in a major war, and they have never led to capitulation of that government to the coercer's demands. voice-verified

This is extremely important to know because in World War I, there was massive British blockade on Germany. voice-verified

World War II, massive economic sanctions and U.S. voice-verified

blockade on Japan. voice-verified

And in both those cases, that blockade did not stop a messy ground wars. voice-verified

In fact, they only ended with messy ground wars and with Japan, the atomic bombs. voice-verified

If we look at Saddam Hussein in the 1990s, we imposed economic sanctions on Saddam Hussein after we kicked his forces out of Kuwait. voice-verified

And those stayed on for a dozen years. voice-verified

They dropped the economy's GDP by 48% each year for 12 solid years. voice-verified

and did not stop us from having to invade with 150,000 ground forces. voice-verified

Iran, we've been slapping sanctions on Iran for decades, and also Putin. voice-verified

Look at what happened with Russia after he invaded Ukraine. voice-verified

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