Robert Pape

They need to send letters to say it is high time

that we have Democratic and Republican leaders jointly condemning political violence.

That is a voice that's not been heard.

So for the last period of this interview, we focused on so much of the problem, but there is a core anchor that we need to lean into that we're simply not leaning into.

We can have a better future.

It is a choice.

But it's a choice that we, the people, have to make.

And it's we, the 75%, have to make.

Because that is the country.

And that is our future.

That is exactly right.

Leaders listen to their constituents.

So if all they're getting is emails from their constituents, go hit the other side harder and harder.

That's literally all that's in their inbox.

No surprise, that's what they say.

But if they hear from their constituents, and I'm saying 75% of the constituents of Republicans, of Democrats, they abhor political violence.

Those constituents need to step up to the moment as well.

They need to make a choice.

Is it worth it to take the time to send those emails and make those phone calls to their representatives?

Because that actually is what gets the representatives to move.