Robert Pape

Thank you very much for having me.

Thank you very much for having me.

And have no fear, we're soon going to forget about that minor thing called the Iraq War.

Yeah, absolutely.

This is part of a larger picture that happened this week.

This is the week that the United States has truly lost control of the Iran war.

This has all happened, it's been building, and I've been talking about this, but you can now see it this week.

Iran is negotiating without the United States.

So Iran's going to Pakistan, it's going to Russia, it's about to go to Oman, but it's not about

meeting with the United States.

Our allies, at least maybe our former allies, our allies, say the German leader, is publicly saying that America is humiliated on the world stage.

Just think about that for a moment.

And the global system, the region and the global system is essentially moving on without the United States.

And that's where the UAE comes in.

So I definitely understand that it's a data point and it's thought of as a soda straw, but it's much more than that.

So what I have been explaining on your show on the Substack for weeks now is that Iran is emerging as the fourth center of world power.

In fact, you got the exclusive first, even before the New York Times.

And

That is going to have major consequences, and it doesn't unfold all at once.

It unfolds over time.