Robert Pape

Politics.

Politics.

No matter how many times, how many sorties you've flown in either an F-117, a B-2, or an F-35, you're not focusing on politics there.

That's just not happening.

When you're suddenly now in the game of strategy, it's if I do X to the enemy, what is it going to do politically to the enemy?

This isn't just a matter of how many launchers I'm taking down.

That's my lane.

That's what I deal with in Bombing to Win, my work on economic sanctions and blockades, which is another 30 years of work.

here is also about the same thing.

It's not just how to work.

I know a lot about the details of the tactics.

I have to.

But when I'm my lane and when I'm talking to the White House is about is not how to rearrange what the military does.

They're the best of the best.

I know because I have been there up close and personal with them.

The it's about when you do X, what's that going to do politically to the target?

That is not something you learn when you're in deployment in Fallujah.

That's just not what's going on.

Now, you do actually learn more about it over time.

And when you start to study it, as I do, a lot of those deployments, people will start to make some analogies, which is, oh, yes, now I see that when we –