Robert Pape
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2,835 appearances
10 recordings
4 series
first heard Mar 2026
last heard 30 Jun
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I have to.
But when I'm my lane and when I'm talking to the White House is about is not how to rearrange what the military does.
They're the best of the best.
I know because I have been there up close and personal with them.
The it's about when you do X, what's that going to do politically to the target?
That is not something you learn when you're in deployment in Fallujah.
That's just not what's going on.
Now, you do actually learn more about it over time.
And when you start to study it, as I do, a lot of those deployments, people will start to make some analogies, which is, oh, yes, now I see that when we –
When we started out in 2004 and we had these more heavy-handed tactics, we were actually producing more terrorists than we were killing.
And back then in 2003 and 2004, that was the big issue I was engaged with, which is I want to kill terrorists.
I absolutely wanted to kill terrorists.
It's not that I want to let them off the hook.
I want to know how do I kill the current generation of terrorists without producing a second generation
That's even bigger.
And even Don Rumsfeld finally started to say, we're producing more terrorists than we're killing.
That's why we changed strategy, not just tactics, but we literally changed our approach and we ended up
defeating AQI, and we did this through a political strategy by empowering the Anbar Awakening, who were this 100,000 set of Sunni tribes that were numbering 100,000.
And we took a big risk here to get rid of AQI.
What did we do?
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