Robert Pape

And I say, yeah, we say we're Uncle Sucker, but who's the sucker here?

Who's the real sucker here?

See, I understand President Trump saying if he just looks at this statistic about who's paying for defense.

And he's right on the numbers.

This is not a mistake of numbers.

It's not that President Trump's getting his numbers wrong.

But as a businessman, you know, if you're up against companies here, if you're one of the big mega companies here and you're 26% of the market and your competitor is here at like 7%, 8% of the market,

And you stay at 26 and they go to four.

Who's got the power here?

Who's gaining power here?

We're gaining power.

I'm very concerned that what's going to happen in the next five, 10 years is we'll go from 26 to 22 to 23 percent, something like that.

Other countries, and I'm mostly worried about China, are just going to eat our lunch.

And then maybe even the Europeans will start to get their act together.

and start to become economically stronger.

Now, I'm not saying they will for sure, but we have not had our lunch eaten from us here since the end of the Cold War, and this is over 30 years.

So this isn't just a yearly thing.

So I really believe that we are not using – I keep trying to explain.

We're focusing on issues of tactics.

We're not focusing on the bigger picture numbers here, the bigger picture outcomes here.