Robert Siegel

And I just found the whole thing wonderful.

And I'm even looking forward to Major League Baseball with a machine that overrides umpires when they call balls and strikes wrong.

to learn to scream at a computer.

Mona and EJ, EJ and Mona, thanks to both of you.

It's great.

This is The Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times opinion.

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Here's what to make of it.

Hi, I'm Robert Siegel in conversation about politics with two of the smartest guys I know when it comes to politics.

E.J.

Dionne, longtime columnist, author of a great many books, and now an opinion contributor to The New York Times.

Good to see you, E.J.

Always good to be with you.

And the equally prolific David Brooks, who joins us for the last time.

As of this hour, are you still a New York Times columnist?

Well, we'll hear more about that later.

I don't think either of you will be surprised to know that we're starting with Donald Trump.

We're almost a month into the second year of his second term as president.

And both of you in recent weeks have written columns in which you have found some important change or some important landmark that this presidency has passed.

And in a little while, I'd like to hear from you, David, about that.