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Robert Silverman

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119 total appearances

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Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Dolan would say it's to stop terrorists and to stop criminals or whatever.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

But there's very little evidence of that, very little.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

And in fact, what we heard from the NYPD is that they don't supply any facial recognition or any other kind of data to Madison Square Garden for those purposes.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

So who does he use it for instead?

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Who does he use this facial recognition for instead?

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Instead, it's to track a series of people on lists.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Most famously on those lists are lawyers, lawyers who have sued the garden in any way, shape or form.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

There's a famously there's a case of a lawyer who was taking her kid to see, I think, the Rockettes at Radio City Music Hall.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

And just because someone else in her firm had sued Madison Square Garden, she was not allowed to bring her kid to Radio City.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Yeah.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

And then there's accidents, too.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

So, for example, in our investigation, we found screenshots of a little girl.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Couldn't have been more than, I don't know.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

eight years old, who got flagged by their facial recognition system.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Now, it's an accident, of course, but the fact that she got logged in at all is a real problem.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Right.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

So the lawsuit was filed by a guy named Donnie Ingrassolino, who's a former New Jersey law enforcement professional, who then went on to work for the Tao Group, which was a series of nightclubs and restaurants that was partially owned at the time by Jim Dolan, although he later divested it.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

And then he went on to work for Madison Square Garden proper.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

Now, this lawsuit has all kinds of stuff in it, but it also has a couple of really shocking claims, including the surveillance of a trans woman whose only crimes, quote-unquote, seemed to be that she'd gotten too close to players and to Madison Square Garden staffers.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why You Might Already Own SpaceX Shares; Inside the Knicks' Owner's Surveillance Machine

And so we went looking to try to track down that claim and others that are in the lawsuit.