Robert

Like, that's kind of the whole deal.

Over time, being online stopped being a thing only nerds did and started becoming the norm.

As more and more people started communicating via the internet, some of them, like Alana, became aware of the fact that there were a lot of young people who wanted to have sex but weren't, right?

That there's still a lot of these lonely virgins out there and that this is actually a sizable community of people online.

And some of the folks who have this realization hear cash register sounds in their ears.

And this is where enter the pickup artist community, right?

Ah, yeah.

There's that good, that good far right men's rights movement prehistory.

Please, I love a good pickup artist.

Oh, yeah.

Give me condescension, women love it.

We're going to give you something slightly different.

I thought I was going to start by reading you some old pickup artistry stuff.

And we'd both be like, wow, it's fucked up how crazy and bigoted this old pickup artistry book is.

I had the opposite experience.

Yeah.

So pickup artists started out well before the Internet, right?

This is not a thing.

I asked a couple of different friends going into this.

When do you think pickup artistry got started as like a social movement or grift or whatever you want to call it?