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Robert

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Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

So even then, there were some signs that like some of these guys seem to be surprised that like women have feelings.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

And she's noticing this.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

And that's kind of weird.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

But a couple one couple who meets on the site gets married and people get better there, including Alana.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

And in fact, she over time stops being involuntarily celibate.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

She finds people.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

She starts dating.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

She moves on with her life.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

And to be entirely fair to her, she is not the origin of the term incel.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

She comes up with the term involuntary celibate, but her preferred abbreviation was inv-cel, I-N-V-cel, which was never going to go viral the way incel has.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

No, it's harder to say.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

It's harder to say.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

And an unnamed member of the community suggested incel might flow better off the tongue.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

The term originally referred to people of any gender, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Like it was not specifically just for angry young men.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

So again, after a couple years of this, Alana's life changes.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

She starts meeting people and dating, and she leaves the community she'd started around the turn of the millennium.

Behind the Bastards
Part One: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

The website she'd built and the community on it wound down, but the term incel stayed in use, and it kept on being adopted by people who, well, they wanted to have sex, but they weren't having sex, right?