Robin Carhart-Harris

And I'm not fundamentally skeptical about every story, but I just know that this mechanism or imagined mechanism has been abused by, certainly by the hypnosis community back in the day.

And I worry that psychedelics could be hypnosis on steroids.

I worry too.

And I think there's an angle here from legal professionals seeing an opportunity.

And I think that's a problem, a future problem that we'll clash into at some point.

But yes, it comes up and I treat it in that way.

We go case by case and we've had to manage patients uncertain about a recovered memory.

I remember one in particular, he's spoken openly about it, where he was confused about whether one of his parents had tried to smother him and kill him with a pillow.

And yeah, we had to hold that very lightly in terms of its veridicality or otherwise.

And that was hard for him.

You know, he wanted some kind of closure there.

He had classic ambivalence about this parental figure.

projected for a while that they were all good, and then had this jarring challenge to that come up as an apparent or possible recovered memory.

And so what happened there is that there was extended therapy for that case.

When you look at its data, it actually sticks out like a sore thumb.

In our trial, it was our first

psilocybin therapy for treatment resistant depression trial.

And you can see there's a clinically meaningful increase in symptom severity.

He's the only one who showed that in two or three weeks after the treatment.

So we had to manage this turbulence that he was going through where he was uncertain as to whether this happened or not.