Rohin Shah

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #245 – Rohin Shah on what it's really like to run AGI safety at Google DeepMind (and where I disagree with 'doomers') · 2 Jun 2026 podcast

I mean, maybe more broadly, I might say that it feels like asks that the community makes can fall in two categories.

One is things that actually matter for actual safety.

I'm all for those.

We should do those.

People should judge us if we're not doing them.

Um, and then there's like things that I would categorize as pay costs to signal allegiance to the X risk safety community.

And I'm like, I'm not about those.

I don't want to do them.

If you ask for them, I'm just going to say no.

But like not to the purpose of actual safety, to the purpose of signaling that you will do safety in the future.

But I think you should do it based on like the things that actually matter for safety, of which there are many.

I think it matters that people are running evaluations for especially cyber and CBRN misuse, but also other things like deceptive alignment, misalignment.

I think it matters that they are reporting this information to governments and appropriate external bodies.

So I think there are things that you can look at there.

I think it matters, for example, that people are doing the planning for what they will need to do in the future to address future issues.

I think it matters that companies are doing research into...

into like AGI safety concerns that might arise in the future and like figuring out ways to deal with that.

So there's like lots of stuff that I think you can judge companies on right now.

And I would much rather that people judge us based on that, the stuff that actually matters.

I think I'm also, in addition to all of that, which I agree with, I'm also just deeply skeptical of...

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