Rohin Shah

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80,000 Hours Podcast · #245 – Rohin Shah on what it's really like to run AGI safety at Google DeepMind (and where I disagree with 'doomers') · 2 Jun 2026 podcast

So, for example, currently there is a hiring round open on the security team to hire engineers to work on AI control.

And I think that's a great position, hugely impactful.

As I've said before, that's probably the argument that we're going to make.

for why Gemini wouldn't cause harm via loss of control in the medium term.

So I think that's an extremely useful role, very impactful, not on the AGI safety and alignment team, but they would be working closely with us.

I think on my team, we're hiring at the moment for an engineer for frontier safety risk assessment.

So this is like running our dangerous capability evaluations and writing the frontier safety report.

I don't particularly think that the frontier safety report needs to be that much more detailed, but if you do, you could come join us and then put in the time to make it better.

there is like a fair amount that individual people on the team can have the flexibility to go and do stuff like that.

In practice, I expect by the time that this recording actually comes out, that that role might not be there, but I think

We do have these roles coming out on an ongoing basis.

And maybe I'll send over a link to an expression of interest form that people can fill out so that we can email them when new roles open up.

I think part of it is like we've, like many others, have been hit by the deluge of AI-assisted applications.

And so we are a little bit less likely to in the future make these open calls for hiring because it really is just such a pain to go and do the resume screening for all of them.

Yeah, it's rough.

Last year, we included an LLM CAPTCHA.

But for our recent...

For a recent one, we were trying to do it, and I think we probably could, but it would also trick a bunch of humans.

Even our LLM captcha from last year tricked a bunch of humans.

Not a bunch, like maybe 5% of them.

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