Romy

Just to say, Shelley is, of course, focusing on just the environmental impact here. Obviously, there's a whole other conversation to be had about the possible health impacts of plastics or microplastics that we're just not going to get into today.

Just to say, Shelley is, of course, focusing on just the environmental impact here. Obviously, there's a whole other conversation to be had about the possible health impacts of plastics or microplastics that we're just not going to get into today.

Just to say, Shelley is, of course, focusing on just the environmental impact here. Obviously, there's a whole other conversation to be had about the possible health impacts of plastics or microplastics that we're just not going to get into today.

But when it comes to sustainability, Shelley thinks that plastic's reputation as public enemy number one kind of just boils down to how visible its environmental impacts are. Whereas with other materials like glass, metal, terracotta, a lot of these things require a ton of energy to produce and to transport, and much more than plastic. But their impacts are just more abstract and less visual.

But when it comes to sustainability, Shelley thinks that plastic's reputation as public enemy number one kind of just boils down to how visible its environmental impacts are. Whereas with other materials like glass, metal, terracotta, a lot of these things require a ton of energy to produce and to transport, and much more than plastic. But their impacts are just more abstract and less visual.

But when it comes to sustainability, Shelley thinks that plastic's reputation as public enemy number one kind of just boils down to how visible its environmental impacts are. Whereas with other materials like glass, metal, terracotta, a lot of these things require a ton of energy to produce and to transport, and much more than plastic. But their impacts are just more abstract and less visual.

Well, I actually never thought of that, honestly. It kind of goes back to this idea that if you see a yogurt in a clay pot and a yogurt in a plastic pot, you're going to think, oh, yeah, plastic is bad, while clay has this idea of, like, oh, it's natural. Yeah, it's probably better for the environment.

Well, I actually never thought of that, honestly. It kind of goes back to this idea that if you see a yogurt in a clay pot and a yogurt in a plastic pot, you're going to think, oh, yeah, plastic is bad, while clay has this idea of, like, oh, it's natural. Yeah, it's probably better for the environment.

Well, I actually never thought of that, honestly. It kind of goes back to this idea that if you see a yogurt in a clay pot and a yogurt in a plastic pot, you're going to think, oh, yeah, plastic is bad, while clay has this idea of, like, oh, it's natural. Yeah, it's probably better for the environment.

And so you, as a very well-informed, conscientious consumer, you're at the grocery store, you have a choice between a yogurt that comes in a plastic container and a yogurt that comes in a terracotta container. Which would you feel better about picking up on a random Tuesday?

And so you, as a very well-informed, conscientious consumer, you're at the grocery store, you have a choice between a yogurt that comes in a plastic container and a yogurt that comes in a terracotta container. Which would you feel better about picking up on a random Tuesday?

And so you, as a very well-informed, conscientious consumer, you're at the grocery store, you have a choice between a yogurt that comes in a plastic container and a yogurt that comes in a terracotta container. Which would you feel better about picking up on a random Tuesday?

It doesn't scream up market. Yeah. But... It just turns out that if you get into the nitty gritty of the environmental trade-offs here, like the thing that doesn't look environmentally friendly, it doesn't have the aesthetic of environmentalism, oftentimes can be more environmentally friendly. But. But. This is an important but.

It doesn't scream up market. Yeah. But... It just turns out that if you get into the nitty gritty of the environmental trade-offs here, like the thing that doesn't look environmentally friendly, it doesn't have the aesthetic of environmentalism, oftentimes can be more environmentally friendly. But. But. This is an important but.

It doesn't scream up market. Yeah. But... It just turns out that if you get into the nitty gritty of the environmental trade-offs here, like the thing that doesn't look environmentally friendly, it doesn't have the aesthetic of environmentalism, oftentimes can be more environmentally friendly. But. But. This is an important but.

Shelley goes on to say that this whole conversation we're having about packaging kind of misses the point entirely.

Shelley goes on to say that this whole conversation we're having about packaging kind of misses the point entirely.

Shelley goes on to say that this whole conversation we're having about packaging kind of misses the point entirely.

She says plastic's typically less than 10% of the total environmental impact of the food product that you're consuming. The food itself, far more important to whether or not you're actually making a sustainable decision. What's the carbon footprint of yogurt? This is a good question, and this invites a whole lot of other questions on the other side of it.

She says plastic's typically less than 10% of the total environmental impact of the food product that you're consuming. The food itself, far more important to whether or not you're actually making a sustainable decision. What's the carbon footprint of yogurt? This is a good question, and this invites a whole lot of other questions on the other side of it.