Romy

The first thing that she says is that to answer a question like this, you need to know what your priorities are. Because she says that there's really no human activity that is good for the environment. Podcasting. Besides podcasting, she said. We only generate hot air. That's warming the climate, Peter. That's not good. What this means is that this is a conversation about trade-offs.

The first thing that she says is that to answer a question like this, you need to know what your priorities are. Because she says that there's really no human activity that is good for the environment. Podcasting. Besides podcasting, she said. We only generate hot air. That's warming the climate, Peter. That's not good. What this means is that this is a conversation about trade-offs.

Because different things are bad for the environment in different ways. And so we asked her to kind of compare our two materials here, terracotta and plastic. She started with plastic, and right off the bat, she's like, Plastic is terrible for the environment.

Because different things are bad for the environment in different ways. And so we asked her to kind of compare our two materials here, terracotta and plastic. She started with plastic, and right off the bat, she's like, Plastic is terrible for the environment.

Because different things are bad for the environment in different ways. And so we asked her to kind of compare our two materials here, terracotta and plastic. She started with plastic, and right off the bat, she's like, Plastic is terrible for the environment.

And then there's plastics afterlife, like it clogs landfills, turtles choke on it, microplastics, et cetera, et cetera.

And then there's plastics afterlife, like it clogs landfills, turtles choke on it, microplastics, et cetera, et cetera.

And then there's plastics afterlife, like it clogs landfills, turtles choke on it, microplastics, et cetera, et cetera.

And this is where Shelley started to really surprise me. I think us, actually. Like, yes, plastic sucks. Yes. But remember, everything's a trade-off here. And so, like, how does plastic compare to everything else out there?

And this is where Shelley started to really surprise me. I think us, actually. Like, yes, plastic sucks. Yes. But remember, everything's a trade-off here. And so, like, how does plastic compare to everything else out there?

And this is where Shelley started to really surprise me. I think us, actually. Like, yes, plastic sucks. Yes. But remember, everything's a trade-off here. And so, like, how does plastic compare to everything else out there?

Yeah, so for example, how do you go about weighing plastic against another material? How does that work from a professional standpoint?

Yeah, so for example, how do you go about weighing plastic against another material? How does that work from a professional standpoint?

Yeah, so for example, how do you go about weighing plastic against another material? How does that work from a professional standpoint?

Shelley says, for instance, you can use a pretty small amount of plastic to perform the same function as much heavier materials like metal or glass or terracotta.

Shelley says, for instance, you can use a pretty small amount of plastic to perform the same function as much heavier materials like metal or glass or terracotta.

Shelley says, for instance, you can use a pretty small amount of plastic to perform the same function as much heavier materials like metal or glass or terracotta.

Yeah, it's super interesting because that's exactly where we started to see kind of the fault in the image of La Fermière, where we started thinking, okay, it's so much heavier that during transportation, it probably emits a lot more CO2. And so we're really wondering, where does this idea that plastic is bad or is worse maybe than glass or terracotta, where do you think that comes from?

Yeah, it's super interesting because that's exactly where we started to see kind of the fault in the image of La Fermière, where we started thinking, okay, it's so much heavier that during transportation, it probably emits a lot more CO2. And so we're really wondering, where does this idea that plastic is bad or is worse maybe than glass or terracotta, where do you think that comes from?

Yeah, it's super interesting because that's exactly where we started to see kind of the fault in the image of La Fermière, where we started thinking, okay, it's so much heavier that during transportation, it probably emits a lot more CO2. And so we're really wondering, where does this idea that plastic is bad or is worse maybe than glass or terracotta, where do you think that comes from?