Ron Shaich

And I think I feel better about that relationship today than probably at any other point in my life.

Yes, we look at time, but it's not so much about time.

Time is a means.

It's not the end.

I'm really looking at what did I get done?

Did I get done

the things that I said I needed to do to create that condition that I'm trying to attain in three, five and 10 years.

So I give you a very specific example and we're staying in the health domain.

I think it was probably 15 years ago.

I went to my doctor and I realized I was on the edge of becoming pre-diabetic.

I was also doing work at Panera.

And I had a medical advisor helping me deal with how our food manifested itself.

And we wanted to really serve people.

We had done a clean food initiative.

And he put me on a continuous glucose monitor.

And he wanted me to see how I was affected by Panera food.

And that whole experience between my doctor and this work I was doing at Panera made me realize I needed to manage my own relationship with carbohydrates, my own relationship with my diet.

And that led me to say, hey, if you're ever going to do this, I was at that time, you know, mid 50s.

I said, if I'm ever going to do that, I got to get to work on doing it.

And I then put that into projects, one of which was, in my case, to move to a more vegan diet.