Ronan Farrow

No.

There was not a lot of transparency.

But he was able to, in making the argument for himself, also, I think, assert and get into the bloodstream a broader argument that that kind of safety-mindedness no longer has a place in a race to achieve AGI with massive economic stakes.

And today you see that reality, that there is a very fair argument that these firms are, on safety, engaged in something of a race to the bottom.

Mm-hmm.

ChatGPT is now able to convince human observers that it is human more often than humans are able to.

This is research published last year that when you look at this test of can a chatbot deceive a human observer into thinking that the chatbot is a human, human beings pass that threshold less often than chat GPT.

And worth pointing out, useful in a very sincere and deep way.

I mean, when you look at the medical applications, lives are being saved.

For diagnostics and research.

It is a game changer for things like, you know, severe weather warnings, which may sound banal, but that is truly a lifesaver.

There are all kinds of applications where this is the real deal already.

If I'm being honest, through this reporting, I feel oddly somewhat connected to Sam.

He may have a different view of the rapport.

I do think I understand him on a certain level.

I had these moments with him where I would ask, what is your personal human experience of so many people around you saying these things about your honesty and integrity?

Because for me, it would be such a terribly devastating thing to hear.

And I will say on this point he is somewhat resistant to self-reflection is my impression as he is on a range of these questions.

When we talked about his roots and some of these perhaps formative factors, his sexual identity, his Jewishness, his socioeconomic background.

Which was prosperous.