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Ronan Farrow

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And I think that that runs through a lot of the professional situations that we narrate, that there are other people who really have a relationship that matters to them internally with the truth of a situation.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And I think he is...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

uniquely suited in some ways to this job because he really can effortlessly shift between one version of reality and another as he is marshalling people to his cause.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So this is one area where it's important to note we didn't set out looking for that.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Part of what makes this circumstance extraordinary is the prevalence of this allegation that Sam Altman lies all the time.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Another thing that makes it extraordinary is that in addition to those, in my view, more substantive critiques that are so widespread, there are incredibly widespread claims about his personal life that don't stand up to as much scrutiny.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Again, in my view, having looked at this for months and months.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

We capture the way in which actually, ironically, the existence of these falsified or thin claims trumped up by rivals kind of obfuscates the real criticism.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

The atmosphere of conflict in this field is, we quote one executive saying, Shakespearean.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

You could, historians could debate, but certainly we talk to many people in this field who say absolutely yes.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And, you know, one of the things we encountered, and I'm not talking about like a little bit here and there from arrival.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

I mean, I got...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

You know, the better part of a dozen incoming calls from government officials, from people at investment firms, from rivals.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

You talk to anyone in this industry, and they will cite this, in many cases, as common knowledge.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Claims that, you know, Sam pursues minors.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

That's a very persistent one.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And let's quickly stipulate that there's no...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Sam and I had direct conversations about it.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And while obviously, you know, people have been telling us to take things Sam Altman says with a grain of salt, I did feel there was a degree of sincerity in some of those conversations where we would talk, you know, in addition to our on-the-record conversations, we had, you know, frank personal conversations where I think I got a picture of his relationship with these allegations.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And we put what the facts we uncover can sustain in the piece, which is we found absolutely nothing.