Ronen Bergman

And I think that the next few days or weeks are going to be quite significant in the history of the war, the regional war between Israel and the axis of resistance.

No doubt.

Prime Minister Netanyahu acknowledged that in a speech, I think three weeks after the beginning of the war, while at the beginning he said, we are partners, mutual partners.

Then he said, under the leadership of President Trump, he said something that was clear to any soldier, any officer, any general in the IDF, that this war will end only when Trump says it's over.

So it's clear that if President Trump decides that something would happen

and be very strict with that, the Prime Minister of Israel would not go to avert confrontation with him.

No, that's one of the things that he's very strict with, he won't.

which is why Netanyahu and his team and ministers, when hearing the announcement from Islamabad that negotiation fell apart, they said, ha, you see, this is President Trump that we like, that is not giving up, that is going full force, and they are hoping will go back to Warsaw.

Thanks to them.

Thanks for having us.

Thanks, Natalie.

Pleasure.

So this was a rolling plan towards an attack that called for, in the first time in history, a joint U.S.-Israeli strike on Iran that would involve the Israeli intelligence and the almighty power of America together.

Something that Netanyahu always, always, this was his dream.

He thrived for that.

And everybody told him this will never happen.

And then someone said to President Trump, this is April 2025, listen, we are being dragged into war that we don't want.

And we want an agreement.

Yes, at the beginning, he doesn't want that.

And he says to Netanyahu, stop, don't.