Ronny Chieng (performing a bit)

Look, that's, yo, that's Buddhism. That's Buddhism. So, give me some Buddhism to dance. I want you for science, okay? You're the science guy. Buddhism is my thing. You're the science guy. You give the science. Okay, well, here's, I guess I'll put him on. Here's what'll happen.

Let me put it this way, because one thing that was always what I'm getting at in this whole questioning is that the innovation in America seems to me driven a lot by immigrants to America. Immigrants invented the phone.

Let me put it this way, because one thing that was always what I'm getting at in this whole questioning is that the innovation in America seems to me driven a lot by immigrants to America. Immigrants invented the phone.

Okay, well, maybe that's not great. No, but I'm just saying, if you have an environment that's kind of saying, hey, country first, let's not have so much immigration that affects science.

Okay, well, maybe that's not great. No, but I'm just saying, if you have an environment that's kind of saying, hey, country first, let's not have so much immigration that affects science.

Again, we agree. Immigrants are good for science.

Again, we agree. Immigrants are good for science.

You're describing a dark age right now, which I was hoping would not happen, but I guess I gotta turn to Buddhism to get out of that one.

You're describing a dark age right now, which I was hoping would not happen, but I guess I gotta turn to Buddhism to get out of that one.

Buddha will claim it. We'll give that one to Buddha. All right. Yeah, but there is this idea that I feel like any time I see you explaining something about science in America right now, it's like people just want to argue, like pull you into this culture war. Yeah. And you know what? To be fair, I guess if you look at history, scientists have always been pulled into politics and the cultural.

Buddha will claim it. We'll give that one to Buddha. All right. Yeah, but there is this idea that I feel like any time I see you explaining something about science in America right now, it's like people just want to argue, like pull you into this culture war. Yeah. And you know what? To be fair, I guess if you look at history, scientists have always been pulled into politics and the cultural.

But you, as like a kind of front-facing member of the science community trying to educate people, how do you navigate this ?

But you, as like a kind of front-facing member of the science community trying to educate people, how do you navigate this ?

Yes, you got that.

Yes, you got that.

It was 40 pounds ago, but I'm still feeling it. Okay, well... That's exactly what we need right now. We need Neil deGrasse Tyson to beat some assholes up. Cage match. Yeah. So, like, I guess your advice is to beat the shit out of people. I don't know what, you know, what can the science community... No, you can do it with love.

It was 40 pounds ago, but I'm still feeling it. Okay, well... That's exactly what we need right now. We need Neil deGrasse Tyson to beat some assholes up. Cage match. Yeah. So, like, I guess your advice is to beat the shit out of people. I don't know what, you know, what can the science community... No, you can do it with love.

Yeah, that sounds like every interaction on the internet.

Yeah, that sounds like every interaction on the internet.

So on a more helpful note, I feel like... Thank you for having a more helpful note. Yeah, I'm trying. So far, it's not been a great outlook for the world right now. But Internet sucks, and we're going to go into a dark age. It's kind of the message of this. I feel like we used to revere scientists a bit more in America. I think what we need from scientists right now is a hit single.