Rory Hearne

They are operating.

And then we also need at a community level, because there is, and I really, this is so important, I want to get this across.

There's such amazing work been done in Ballymun by community groups, but they are also hamstrung in terms of lack of funding.

There's amazing work been done in schools, but there's need for greater targeted resources.

We have a Ballymun implementation board, which is similar to a North East inner city.

um implementation around trying to tackle these on a long-term basis but its funding isn't there it doesn't have anything of the funding and even now is there's questions will it be wound up there is a need for targeted funding in areas like bali mon to ensure that we break that cycle of deprivation along with the increased policing targeted i'm not talking about a police state bar you know that it's about targeting are we saying that in deprived areas it's okay to allow drug gangs operate

This is the reality.

Rory, hang on, just let me finish the sentence.

But you can seriously tackle it, Barry.

I cannot believe you're saying that essentially we're tolerating it because that is tolerating by saying.

This is on top of...

Significant intimidation going on.

Well, that is absolutely one of the most tragic things that are ongoing right now.

There's figures of up to 1,000 young people across the country who have been groomed into gangs.

Again, that's been highlighted in Ballymun as well.

And this issue, and it is about prevention, it's about giving.

I was talking to someone from the community yesterday who said it.

They said...

You know, in a community with a level of deprivation at this, people look and go, what's my future?

And criminality is offered to them.