Rory O'Driscoll

I mean, I'm sure some are grouchy, but I think it's up there with Klaviyo.

Everyone in e-commerce, their favorite app is Klaviyo because it just gets you more customers.

Klaviyo has brought in a co-CEO because their whole business model has changed.

It's going to be there in software in a year.

It just doesn't make sense to have to wait days for designs to change.

And then they only sort of work in my code base.

And then I've got to integrate it.

All these guys added a design mode with Google 3 Pro or whatever it is.

They all added a design mode.

It's like pretty good, but it's still recycled stuff.

But you could see a hint of it where now you can make a somewhat beautiful website while you vibe code.

2026 is going to be at 50x better.

Will that be a Figma?

Honestly, and I know this sounds Captain Obvious, I honestly think it's going to be who wants it the most.

You almost have to work so hard.

You have to 12, 12, 9.

As hard as we're working at Cursor, and it's been great, we might have to work even harder.

But maybe Figma works even harder.

I know this sounds silly, but everyone can copy each other in weeks now, not in months or years or quarters.

It's who works.