Rory O'Driscoll

I think, again, Jason, you raise a good point.

I think, again, Jason, you raise a good point.

You go in, you know, you see things and...

You go in, you know, you see things and...

especially at the earliest stages, if you think the team is wrong, but you want to do the deal, then that's a really tricky conversation.

especially at the earliest stages, if you think the team is wrong, but you want to do the deal, then that's a really tricky conversation.

As well as when you're as successful as the node, you're like, I could take three meetings and slowly and delicately get to this point, or maybe I'll just say it.

As well as when you're as successful as the node, you're like, I could take three meetings and slowly and delicately get to this point, or maybe I'll just say it.

Now, it's also worth pointing out, he said very clearly he doesn't believe that happened.

Now, it's also worth pointing out, he said very clearly he doesn't believe that happened.

So I think stepping back, I don't know if it's a useful way to rehash.

So I think stepping back, I don't know if it's a useful way to rehash.

I mean, the more successful you are, the more meetings you'll have, the more meetings you have, the more likely some of them go wrong, especially if you're direct.

I mean, the more successful you are, the more meetings you'll have, the more meetings you have, the more likely some of them go wrong, especially if you're direct.

And Vinod is nothing if not direct.

And Vinod is nothing if not direct.

So stuff happens.

So stuff happens.

I mean, as someone pointed out, he was on the Midas list the first time for Juniper, and he's on the Midas list this year for OpenAI.

I mean, as someone pointed out, he was on the Midas list the first time for Juniper, and he's on the Midas list this year for OpenAI.