Rory Scovel

That's right.

And I think people think, well, I don't want to, I don't want to have faults.

It's like, it's the most common thing.

We all, every single person, varying degrees of these faults.

And it's like, you know, obviously when you have faults that are, we're now talking about the law, that's a different story.

I'm talking about faults where people just go socially and,

I could have been a better person.

I could have been more respectful.

I could have defended someone at a time when they needed to be defended, and instead I decided to join the side of the bully, or I decided to talk to people like that.

I think people just don't want to admit that at some point they were kind of a bad person.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think a lot of people don't realize the currency of genuinely showing remorse and asking forgiveness.

Yeah.

Well, it's hard to see.

I don't understand the admission of like when, this is such a great example, and it's not mine, but when you like are at someone's house and you knock something over, you break it.

And you immediately take ownership and try to make it right by going, oh, I'll, you know, I did this.

I'll clean it up.

I'll pay for it.

Yeah.

I think people don't understand, like, more than likely, the person's just like, oh, it's fine.