Rory Stewart

Check him out.

Nor could they leave those trusses for goodness sake.

So they had to move.

Now, it didn't work for them because unfortunately, Rishi Sunak got many, many talents, but he wasn't.

a great communicating, strategic, big thinking prime minister.

But the other option, which I call the Biden option, which is to be so aware of all the risks and the difficulties involved in getting rid of the leader, that you stick with someone who clearly cannot be your long-term leader, can't be the answer.

You didn't tell us this actually.

No, they don't know.

Look, of course, you're right.

And I'm I'm it's all very well.

I'm sitting here in this.

strange, beautiful studio I noticed with three of your books and only one of mine behind me here.

Yeah, that's right.

It's a percentage point, isn't it?

So you're completely right.

It will feel brutal.

And you're totally right that the two main reasons this doesn't happen is people are very worried about who these alternative candidates are.

Are they going to be any good?

Which is what I would call the, you know,

the issue around Gretchen Whitner or the issue around Kamala Harris, right?