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Rory Stewart

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The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

Actually, something has been lost.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

This delusion since November that Trump can be pushed over to the European position and isn't actually on Putin's side in this conflict has had a huge cost.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

And the cost is because Europe had it in its head that there's no way that Ukraine and Europe can win without the US.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

So the only game, even if it doesn't work, is to try to keep the US in the game.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

And its delusion that maybe the US is ultimately on Europe's side has actually meant that we have not stepped up with our financing, haven't developed a system for defending the Ukraine independent of the United States.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

And actually, worse than that, Ukraine has been firing a lot of American missiles, which it probably would have kept in reserve if it had known that the US was going to

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

stop the future weapon supply.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

So we're actually in a weaker position now in November in negotiating with Russia than we would have been if we'd been clearer in January that Trump was not on our side.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

If in January we had said, okay, basically this guy is on Russia's side,

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

We can keep talking to him, but we need from this moment to put a rocket up our whatever and completely transform our defense security funding policy towards Ukraine.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

Which is kind of what Sikorsky was saying.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

Because the end of the story is always going to be the same, which is a moment is going to come where the United States.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

at best will walk away, but more likely will say, we're not providing key weapons, we're not providing intelligence and security, and we might even go so far as to sanction the Ukrainians because we want to force the Russian position.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

And at that point, we're not ready.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

And we should have been getting ready since January for that.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

And there's a small subtext here also, which was he was supposed to put on enormous sanctions on November 22nd, which he never did.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

On China?

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

I think this is part of a general pattern.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

one of the reasons that Trump has lured us into this false sense that maybe the US is on our side is that in many occasions since January, Trump has signaled, I'm going to sanction Russia.

The Rest Is Politics
473. Europe vs. Trump: Competing Visions for a Ukraine Peace Deal (Question Time)

I'm going to put secondary sanctions against, indeed, Turkey.