Rory Stewart

And my final question then relates to stuff that's happening today.

I mean, Trump, I'm glad to say we haven't talked that much about Trump, but I think we have to a little bit.

Well, I think we have to a little bit.

He has been the author of two enormous shocks.

Tariffs and now Iran.

And I'd just be interested in your take about what you think the consequence of each is going to be for the long term.

Well, there we are.

Thank you for your time.

It's been really interesting talking to you.

I hope we were as engaging as Zach Polanski and Jeremy Corbyn on stage last night.

Okay.

I mean, I think we agreed more than we expected to.

Yes, yes.

Isn't that great?

Yeah.

Anyway, thank you.

I thought, Rory, you might be kicking off with him a la Zach Polanski, a la Gary Stevenson, but I got the feeling you were quite impressed.

The only worry that leaves you with is given that, as you and I keep saying, our political systems need refreshing and reviving.

Our economies are struggling.

This Iran war that we talked about towards the end there is going to make the economic challenges even greater.