Rory Stewart

But amongst the various promises, he's not just putting a million people on Mars.

He promised that he was going to fight Mark Zuckerberg in a ring two years ago, and we haven't yet seen that.

No, we haven't.

I've watched that.

Who do you want to win?

I think Musk would probably win, but who would you want to win?

What's going on, though, between these?

Actually, it turned out, I think, that he dropped out because he suddenly discovered that Mark Zuckerberg had literally been training two hours a day with some martial arts.

So what do you think is going on in the world?

I mean, would this have been true 20, 30 years ago?

Are we becoming much, much more...

I'm with you.

I'm with you because I'm, I disagree with the democratic front because I was talking yesterday to one of the great cornerstones of the US foreign policy establishment.

He was in Washington.

I was in London.

He was saying, listen, we're beginning to think, Democrats as well as Republicans, that maybe what Trump's done is not too bad.

It's encouraged Europe to stand on its own two feet and take more responsibility for security.

In the end, the noise will die down.

Actually, our alliance will be stronger because you will have spent more on defense.

It's true that you weren't spending enough on defense.