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Rory Sutherland

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The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

And so sometimes in marketing, all you've got to do is tell people a fact.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

It's not always about persuasion.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

It's not always about getting people.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

It's simply putting people in a state of knowledge or belief or conviction that this thing can make a difference to their lives.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

And by the way, you're almost always up against a problem, which is that the two human default modes are do what everybody else does and do what I've done before for obvious reasons.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

What you've done before and what everybody else always does is not necessarily optimal, but it's much less likely to be catastrophic than trying something new that nobody else ever does.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

So we're kind of herd species and we're kind of habitual species.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

So in the marketing of something which is genuinely new, you know, you're the Tesla, the electric car, there is a degree of extreme anxiety within.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

which you don't encounter when you repeat buy or when you buy the brand leader.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

There's like a resistance you have to overcome.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Yeah, you have to overcome it because just as a camera has a default mode, the human default mode is do what I did before, do what everybody else does.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

I feel comfortable doing that.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Very, very rational default mode.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

There's nothing silly about that in terms of, if you think about it, our evolutionary brain architecture.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Those two things make a lot of sense.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

But it does mean, and something I only realized about a year ago, 35 years after I've started working in the business, is that as a consequence of that, big innovative new ideas don't require less marketing.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

They require more.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

Because you're asking people to, at the initial stages, you're asking someone to do something that nobody else has done.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

And you're asking them to do something they haven't done before, both of which create a kind of disquiet.

The Knowledge Project
How to Think Like a World-Class Marketer | Rory Sutherland

And so providing people with conviction and reassurance, quite often, I suspect, by the way, in the early stages of a technology, that happens one-to-one.