Rory Sutherland

And also, it's not totally easy to...

to say whether it's negative or positive.

I mean, no one, you know, I'm sure... By the way, I think also a lot of valuable goods are affordable now by everybody because they started as luxury goods.

Yes.

So I always mention this because it's such a silly boast.

My grandparents were the fourth family in Wales to own a dishwasher.

And it cost about a hundred and something pounds at a time when their house, which was a very nice house, cost them 4,000 pounds.

It's still working.

They bought it in 1959, 61, something like that.

And it's like, yeah, I'll be ready Tuesday week.

I'm going to make an unusual foray into environmental responsibility here.

Folks, everyone listening.

If there's a do, a simple thing you can do, two things.

Put on your appliances at times when there is an abundance of clean electricity.

You don't have to change what you do.

You just have to change when you do it.

Secondly, if you've got a dryer that doesn't have a heat pump, get a dryer with a heat pump.

Because, yep, it's slow.

I'm going to acknowledge that.

It's not as fast as an old-fashioned dryer.