Ross Douthat

No, not at all.

For the listener or viewer who, whether for Ehrman's reasons or others, doesn't believe in God and finds your cosmic optimism admirable but maybe thinks that you're deluding yourself on the brink of actual finitude, what would you say to that person?

Do you think you're ready to die?

Do you feel ready?

Happy to get him to open up a can of pansies.

Got me.

Ben Sass, thank you for joining me.

Thanks for having me.

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From New York Times Opinion, I'm Ross Douthat, and this is Interesting Times.

So, is the United States winning its war against Iran?

My guest this week is the CEO for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

He's a longtime Iran hawk who argues that victory is within our reach and that regime change is still a possibility.

Mark Dubowitz, welcome to Interesting Times.