Ross Douthat

And that's fair.

But again, it just seems to me that

The evidence of the last few years is that you can do a lot of damage to Iran without having a full scale battle of the Hormuz Straits.

But I don't want to harp on this.

Let's get back to the war itself.

So we're here and we're going to fight the Battle of Hormuz.

Do we use ground troops?

I mean, he likes he likes to talk like that.

Well, wait, wait a minute.

I mean, they're not gonna reconstitute that in two years if the military campaign has been as successful as you've suggested, right?

Not in two, not in two.

In two, right.

But over a longer time horizon.

Ocasio-Cortez, yeah.

Okay, but in a world where Trump stays the course and we do essentially try and find a military solution to the Straits of Hormuz, does that involve ground troops?

Well, to me, as an extremely amateur student of military matters at the moment, it seems very, very difficult to render the straits safe for passage as long as the Iranian regime exercises full control over the literal physical territory on their side of the straits.

And so...

Why haven't we done that yet?

That's fine.

Okay, yeah.