Ross Douthat

Saying you need to stop buying from Russia.

The Europeans like rules.

They really do.

strategically.

What does India want?

Is this just a matter of, we're not one of the superpowers, we're just trying to play the best hand we can?

Or are there a set of geopolitical objectives that India is interested in?

I think, again, Americans are accustomed to the idea that

China wants Taiwan.

You know, China wants a certain kind of dominance in East Asia.

China has, you know, some client states in Africa.

There's sort of a sense of like Chinese grand strategy.

What is Indian grand strategy?

But shouldn't they take it as a compliment?

Trump wanted to put those tariffs on China too, right?

It's a sign.

No, I'm joking, obviously.

But it is, you know, in its own way, the scale of the tariffs that Trump wants to impose on you should not necessarily be taken as an insult.

So let's talk about then two concrete expressions of Indian power, the relationship with Pakistan and the relationship with China.

Let's say we're living through a 15 to 20 year period where India's influence and power are going to increase.