Ross Douthat

Is Donald Trump actually a pro-life president?

And in a society that's rapidly polarizing along gender lines, what does the pro-life movement have to say to young women in particular?

We got into those and many other subjects.

So here's my conversation with Lila Rose.

Lila Rose, welcome to this stage at Catholic University, and welcome to Interesting Times.

That's right.

And we're here to discuss the politics of abortion, the position of the pro-life movement a few years after Roe v. Wade was overturned.

I want to know what you think the pro-life future looks like here in the second Trump administration.

But since this is a podcast, I'm going to start by asking you a little bit about your own biography.

So you're the founder of Live Action, a pro-life organization, and you founded it when you were 15 years old.

Correct.

So what was Live Action at the beginning when you didn't have your driver's license yet?

Where did you grow up?

So I think the point at which you came to national prominence was a little bit later when you were in college, right?

And you became famous for basically going undercover at Planned Parenthood.

What were you doing in those days?

How old were you at that point?

18.

And so you would tell them a back story, basically.

Let's go from there to a kind of, I mean, we can call it pro-life 101.