Rowan Jacobsen

It's only the UV and maybe a little bit of the blue that contributes to skin cancer.

So it's the UV where they get a little wigged out.

And that data is – it's coming from all different other fields like immunology, cardiology.

So – and like scientists are sort of increasingly like hesitant to trespass on –

their other domains.

Right.

Like they're not going to walk across campus to the other building anymore.

But that needs to change.

And the other part of it is that science, it's sort of very self-reinforcing.

It's all grant-based, essentially.

Like, if you're a scientist, you want to do a study, you have to apply for a grant to get the money to do the study.

And there's generally a handful of entities that are, like, handing out the grant money.

And it's the old guys waiting to die who are going to approve what they think is the truth.

They're going to fund the study that fits with what they already know about the world.

So it's this kind of crazy system where the only way you can get money to do a study is if you're already telling them what they know.

So it's very difficult to get funded to do something that goes against the grain, increasingly so.

And that's a problem.

Yeah.

There's not just – it's very rare to find the individual who's well-known in the field and is eager to self-correct.

No, but I'd love to.